This is to formalize the implementation of a revised infobox style proposed by MrOrganize. At the moment, this covers the Character infobox, Company infobox, Organization infobox, and Plan infobox templates created by them. The following comparisons show how these differ from our existing style:
- Character infobox: Current, Revision
- Company infobox: Current, Revision
- Organization infobox: Current, Revision
- Plan infobox: Current, Revision
Rationale for the change, as MrOrganize posted here regarding the proposed Character infoboxes template: "To Organize a Characters infomation better than the normal infobox characters..."
This would be a major site-wide change, so the voting process will be similar to a nomination for administratorship. Voting starts immediately and ends fourteen days after this page is created (per the page history, this forum was created on 19:13, 22 July 2021 so the voting ends on 19:13, 06 August 2021).
Voting Etiquette
To vote, you must be a registered user with more than 5 un-reverted edits. There are three sections: Support, Oppose, and Comments.
- Use a
#sign instead of a*to mark the votes so it is easy to see the number of votes. - You must provide a rationale when supporting or objecting. Any support or objection that has no connection to this topic or one that does not list a rationale can be considered invalid.
- If you wish to discuss the proposal without voting, use the comments section.
- If you wish to remove your vote, surround it with
<s></s>. This is so we can accurately track the voting, especially once it's archived.
Voting
Support
- If you support this proposal, add your reason here and sign your vote.
'Aesthetical:
The color orange actual matches the Orange Theme of this Wikia:
The code for the color orange is "#D1BEF4", so the user used the correct color.
Technicialties:
1. The purpose: That Organized the info better. And to add different tabs for the "Normal, Future, Live Action, and Video" for that Characters
2. An example: https://phineasandferb.fandom.com/wiki/Phineas_Flynn?oldid=727107
Plus changing all the infobox won't take that long, because Vozhan has a the technique of using a Fandom Bot to automatical change all the infobox
Vozhan(Administrator): "Please don't change the infoboxes for the time being, I'll get a bot to automatically make those edits late r.
https://phineasandferb.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Vozhan?threadId=4400000000000128700#4400000000000446550
Bots are a fandom tool to change multiple pages automatically: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Bots
User corners:
The user who proposed this wanted to let each adminstrator see what the templates would look like if each page would change.
Vozhan(Administrator): "It looks really good, but if you're going to do that to one character page (like Phineas Flynn), you're going to have to do that
to all the character pages.
I've reverted the edit for the time being, but I'm open to using that infobox in the near future."
https://phineasandferb.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Vozhan?threadId=4400000000000128700#4400000000000446544
This user also used the Character box template on different wikia's, that he adds the infobox to the wikia,
and uses it one a more pages.
And sends a message out to each adminstrator see it. And the administrators would always likes it.
Check out these wikias:
Drake and Josh:
Administrators message: https://drakeandjosh.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Vozhan?threadId=4400000000000049768
Administrators message: https://drakeandjosh.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Backstreet25865?threadId=4400000000000049770#4400000000000138566
Administrators message: https://drakeandjosh.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:AnimeKidForever21?threadId=4400000000000049771
Template: https://drakeandjosh.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Character_infobox
American Dragon Jake Long:
Administrators message: https://adjl.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Deangelomywayentfans?threadId=4400000000000035015
Template: https://adjl.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Character_infobox
Miss Spider Sunny Patch Friends:
Administrators messages: https://sunnypatch.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Vanna106?threadId=4400000000000048372
Template: https://sunnypatch.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Character_infobox
MrOrganize (talk) 20:26, 22 July 2021 (Etc)
Oppose
- I oppose, and my reasoning was already posted in Vozhan's wall, but just to reiterate, the problems with this are:
Aesthetical: The yellow color doesn't match with the orange color-theme that this wiki adopted for a long time, not just for the background and infoboxes but also a good chunk of the navboxes.
Technicalities: The infobox doesn't follow the guidelines that were set for the creation of one:
1. The "code"
2. The purpose
3. The usage
4. An example
As it stands, it basically only has the example.
Plus, if we are to change one infobox, we'd have to change all the others, and that would be a bit of a waste of time, in all honesty.
User concerns: The user who proposed this, not only did they spam the admins (including the 2 inactive ones) and my message walls again (after they were told that the vote would happen), but also, they posted to "vote" in the featured article talk and in the discussion tab even though i had told them to be patient.
Not only that, but they seem to be focused solely on the character infobox based on their discussion post, even though like i said in the "technicalities", we'd have to change all the infoboxes to have the same style.
Lastly, this user already had created low-effort pages prior (Candacesaurus and the Slushy statue, that honestly could be included in the slushy franchise page like it was originally, but i won't go on about it), and tried to pass those as actual pages. With all this combined, i believe this user doesn't have the best intentions in mind. This is just my analysis, it's not my intention to judge and/or offend them. Levimartins (talk) 19:41, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Comments
- I'm being a neutral state here.
While I personally like the idea of the new infobox template, I don't see the necessity to update the entire contents on the entire wiki yet, and it would take a long time to make the template works, unless if the bot is re-activated again.
Regarding of the statement of the user created several pointless pages (to be fair, I was the one who was trying to revert his edits and forced the intended user to do edit warring for restoring his old pages, due to the fact that Voz had deleted the pages several months ago, and somehow he re-created it, with no strong sources for the said content) depicted from this deletion log, I agree on that, but I see this forum talk on the different perspective. While attempting to do several improvements is good, but I haven't decided yet my certainty to support the user's proposal, due to the afromentioned bad editing made by the user. Also, don't forget the user put some useless contents on the new template (such as Phineas' future wife, which there are no evidence about Isabella being the future wife).
However, feel free to put any support or oppose on the idea, based on the opinions from the other users. AdysonnS (talk) 22:27, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Result
- The result of the proposal and any voting will be added here.