Talk:Isabella and Phineas's relationship/Archive 2013

Tease Romantic Moment: Bee Story
Question to revolve this discussion around: Did Phineas really mean "You want some, honey?" or "You want some honey?" My personal opinion: he meant to call her "honey" and then backed out, much like she does when she almost admits to her crush on him.69.81.195.223 01:53, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

O.O Didn't think of it that way, that's completely possible since Phineas and Isabella share flirtatious pensions. For Example: During 'De Plane, De Plane' Phineas and Isabella were flirting nearly exactly the same with each other by saying 'Coincidentally' a heck ton. Seeing that they have a similar idea of flirting that could be Phineas' equivalent of backing out of it. Since Phineas hasn't come out the gates with how he feels about her it would make sense that he's better at retreating from revealing his feelings. Just for fun, Isabella's: Phineas: 'My parents are cooking steaks for everyone.' Isabella: 'You had me at our grandchildren.' Phineas: 'What?' Isabella: 'Steaks! You had me at steaks!' And now Phineas': Phineas: 'Hey Isabella, we're having iced tea. You want some, honey?' Isabella: 'What'd you say?' Phineas: 'I said 'we're having iced tea. You want some honey?' Isabella: 'Um... sure" Michael Molina239093 (talk) 21:22, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

I agree. From reading the page, it sounded like he was trying to say "You want some honey?" but I think they should change it because I don't believe that was the case. On a sidenote, Isabella's example that I was thinking of was "Well that's not the Phineas Flynn that I fell in...to this situation with." Your example, though, works just as well.69.81.195.223 20:21, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

I think I cracked this! It's all about logical sequence. Ok, so here’s the question in both forms:

A) We're having iced tea. You want some honey?

In the context Phineas was trying to present this question, it doesn't really make sense. He starts by telling Isabella that they're having iced tea. Normally, what would follow would be an offer for Isabella to have some, too. That’s how he set the sentence up: to inform her that they’re drinking iced tea, then ask if she wants to have any. Fine. But the thing is, Phineas doesn’t do that. He doesn’t wait for Isabella to say yes to the iced tea. She doesn’t even have a glass in her hand or anything. There’s no REASON for Phineas to have asked her for honey at that point.

B) We're having iced tea. You want some, honey?

This makes a LOT more sense. He’s not offering her actual honey, he’s just asking her if she wants iced tea first (with the added bonus of calling her 'honey). Once she has a glass in her hand, then that’s fine - he can offer her all the honey she wants. But until she says yes, there wouldn’t have been reason for him to do that.

Then again, he DID have a jar of honey in his hand... Idk. It’s all pretty complicated, and I guess the only one that really knows is Phineas. (And whoever wrote the line. haha) 71.175.88.228 17:01, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Technically the only ones to really know would be Dan & Swampy and I doubt they'd tip their hand on it. They just love messing with us. Black Spiderman (talk) 18:07, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

The way I see it, Dan and Swampy want to hint at Phineas possibly having a crush on Isabella, but they don't want to confirm it yet. They're probably saving that for a future episode. As far as this particular instance goes, I'll explain the two scenarios.

Without the comma, it seems like Phineas is thinking that it is a foregone conclusion that Isabella wants iced tea...which makes sense. I guess he should have confirmed that first, but it could still work.

On the other hand, adding the comma would have revealed that Phineas does have a crush on Isabella. Like I said before, I think this is true, but Dan and Swampy don't want to reveal it yet.

Here's what I think happened: Phineas's brain was saying that "Hey Isabella, we're having iced tea. You want some?" didn't have the same ring, so he should call her by name. But since he had already said "Isabella", it seemed redundant so his brain went to its other options. He didn't give it much time, so it just went to the first name it could think of (honey). Phineas, realizing that he had revealed his crush, decided to back out, much like Isabella does in Comet Kermilian (Uh, steaks! You had me at steaks!) and Summer Belongs To You (Well that's not the Phineas Flynn that I fell in...to this situation with.). I think they both know about the other's crush on them, but they don't realize it yet.Zeoj99 (talk) 02:36, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

Interesting, and it could be a neat setup for the "Act Your Age" episode assuming it's gonna play out like we all think (or hope) it will... Black Spiderman (talk) 03:13, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

Looks like a similar situation played out in "Happy Birthday Isabella". I'm thinking that Phineas was trying to ask Isabella out on a date, but failed miserably. Now before you jump to any conclusions, let me explain.

Twice Phineas looks away from Isabella. This is what's called "nervous body language" and it's extremely common when asking someone out. Also, he says "...I don't know..." and "...or something," in a tone that suggests that he's a) not sure if she'll like what he's about to say and/or b) he's nervous. Not to mention, he has a nervous tone of voice. It seems like, instead of "...we could...take you out for ice cream..." he wanted to say "...we could...go out for ice cream, just the two of us..." Again, we see that by changing just one little thing, he could've said something completely different. Zeoj99 (talk) 21:01, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Interesting theory. The more I watch that clip, the more this makes sense to me. And to an earlier point you made, this could be the creators again hinting that Phineas is developing a crush on her but not yet confirming it. Though this could also just be us reading a little too much into it. Black Spiderman (talk) 21:12, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Season Four
With Season Four going to to air in the next couples of weeks it has to be ask what type of momments will Phineas and Isabella get in Season Four. One hint we may get a Phineas and Isabella ep is the song"Only trying to Help" the song sound like Phineas is mad at for some reason and Isabella is sad about. It would have to something big to make Phineas Mad at Isabella. —Ctgrumpybear (talk) 15:10, August 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Let's wait until the season actually airs first. —09MurphyM (talk) 16:35, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

In Chronology: Christmas vacation and then Season 1-3. Do you think that Season Four will be the second summer that we'll see Phineas and Ferb? Seeing that Phineas and Isabella seem to have gone through Season Three to get to where they were in the New Year's Episode because they had gotten closer. There is a possibility that Season Four is the Summer following the Second Winter Break that they had. (The reason I say the Christmas episode happened before their summer was that the PnF Movie had their Santa sleigh in it when all their creations were reinvented.) They might not address the matter in the series, but I would like to know other's imputs on whether or not you think that it has been a year for the characters yet Michael Molina239093 (talk) 01:52, December 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Christmas Special is actually after the first three seasons. You can tell because Candace and Jeremy are in a relationship, while in Season 1 Candace just has an unhealthy infatuation with Jeremy and he possibly returns the feelings. Plus, the episodes in Seasons 1-3 are in different order. Ex: Candace's birthday is in July (Candace Loses her Head), where as Linda and Lawrence's wedding anniversary is June 15 (Dude, We're getting the band back together), which appeared in an episode after the latter. I honestly haven't considered that though about Season 4 being the next year, but I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of Phinbella teases throughout the episodes. –174.53.253.10 13:07, December 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Now that we're into Season 4, I'd like to throw this out there: has anyone else noticed that the Phinbella moments are becoming more and more common? It seems like there's one now in every other episode. I will provide my opinion, but I want to know what you all think. We know that the creators originally intended for Phineas to be a little annoyed with Isabella's crush on him, but they quickly changed it to completely oblivious. I think they changed it again to him having a crush on her too, but wanted to do it sneakily. Maybe something like, "'It's weird that" Phineas likes me back, "huh?' 'Yeah, but it was obvious in retrospect.'" Zeoj99 (talk) 18:58, August 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * You'll get your full share of Phinabella moments next year when the as-currently named "Act Your Age" episode comes out. Wacky3zaybxc (talk) 19:14, August 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think we can all agree that all of the relationships in the show have progressively gotten stronger than before. Candace and Jeremy (obviously), Baljeet and Buford, Phines, Ferb and Candace, the Flynn-Fletcher family and Perry, Perry and Doof, etc, but now it seems there's only one last one to work on and they're doing it surprisingly well. They're not rushing it like 'Boom! They're dating', but they're doing it like a couple develops normally. They have their good times, laughs, and they get comfortable with each other until things get more serious. Even Phineas sees that something sporadic would be scary in 'Troy Story', he was really caught off guard. Whatever they're doing, I think Dan and Jeff know what they're doing Michael Molina239093 (talk) 23:35, August 31, 2013 (UTC)