User talk:BigNeerav

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Re:Unconfirmed episodes
Hey, Neerav! I'm happy you're taking interest in this. But in fact, all of those episodes are real. The first three have footnotes next to them, the floating number, click on it and it'll bring you straight to the source, which are interviews with Dan and Swampy, respectably. The last one I still need to add but, it was in a press release that there would be an "Oz" parody in Season 2. If we see a fake episode (yeah, we get them a lot) then we redirect them to 404 and warn the user to not do it again. If they do, we block them for a period of time depending on the repercussions.

So, yeah, all of those episodes are real - you won't see a fake episode on here for long, as, like I said, a user will redirect it to 404 ASAP. Anyways, thanks for worrying about it, but those episode in particular are real. In fact, "Time Machine 2" is going to have a song called Spa Day that will be shown at the San Diego Comic Con, so let's hope someone puts it on YouTube, huh? lol. Anyhoo, thanks for the concern!  The Flash  {talk} 14:32, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well you see, just because there's not a lot of info for an episode that hasn't aired, we still create it because there will be some eventually. It's also to show that we're the quickest and most up-to-date/reliable PaF resource on the web. Hope that clears up why we have unaired episodes that have little to no information about them. :D  The Flash  {talk} 14:57, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Spacing
Hey, good work with "Rollercoaster," but for future reference, you don't need to space things that much - in fact, it's generally regarded as something to not do, as huge spacing between text is a tad clumpy. Just for future reference. Thanks!  The Flash  {talk} 00:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

E-mail
Hey! We don't usually use e-mails here, we prefer to use talk pages, well, at least I do, so next time just do that, I'm always signed in so I'll get it real fast. Second, okay, I just checked the edit history and compared your changes to the previous ones, and there was a couple of spaces inbetween images and the text. You might have done it by accident or I miss-saw it. Anyways, yeah.  The Flash  {talk} 19:00, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry...
...I had to revert your removal on my talk page. Until we settle this we have to keep everything the way it is. Sorry again.  The Flash  {talk} 19:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Not a problem, my man. I deleted it becuase I did not want to get involved. But I do agree, since I check and use this Wikia page and know how things work by looking at the format and such. Let me know if you see anything wrong in any of the edits that I am doing. I am rechecking some of the pages that I edited just to make sure I did not miss anything. Thanks!


 * Alright, good. Also, a tip - to sign your posts, simply type four tildes (~) and it will automatically sign your name and date it. Just for future reference.  The Flash  {talk} 19:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:Homepage needs to be updated
Actually, it's interesting you brought that up. Topher and Ardi have been redesigning the main page in sandboxes with new systems, etc. We'll be putting on up soon, so once then, it will all be updated :D  The Flash  {talk} 20:56, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

E-mail on IP block
Hey, Neerav. You're going to have to contact on RRabbit on this - I have no idea how fix this. I'm pretty sure it's just because it's a similar IP or something along those lines. Sorry I can't help more :(.  The Flash  {talk} 17:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I was under the impression it was fixed? I saw you editing, has it? And speaking of other people being affected, it seems to have happened again; we're looking into it.  The Flash  {talk} 02:36, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Creating a new blog
We will need to come up with an explanation of how to start blogs. I got tripped up about a week ago just like you did.

The main Blog page for each user automatically starts listing the blogs after they've been created. To start a new blog, you have to click on "New post" in the menu on the left, right under "Recent Blog Posts".

You will need to copy what you added to the your main blog page and paste it into a new blog. Then delete that info from the main blog page. Then you'll be set. — RRabbit42 14:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

RRabbit:

I posted a new blog post under "create a new blog" under my Wikia ID, and hit the "Save Page" button, but the message that I got was "a blog with that title already exists". I did it under a different title, and got the same message, and repeated the same thing two or three more times. As it turns out, all of the blog posts (under different titles) have been posted. I was wondering if you can delete the top three or four, as that can be the newest ones. In the meantime, I will follow the advice that you have me. I hope it also appears under my user profile for the blog posts that I have made. Thanks so much for your help. BigNeerav


 * Done. — RRabbit42 14:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism blog
Hey, for some reason you've accidentally disabled comments on your new blog and I'd like to point out something really important there. Therefore, can you please enable them? It's really easy, there'll be an option somewhere around the empty comments area. Thanks!  The Flash  {talk} 15:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to enable comments, but let me see what I can do, as I would love to have comments on my blog about this issue. BigNeerav 23:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Sherman's talk page discussion
I've currently set up a very important discussion on that talk page. Can you please check it out? Thanks!  The Flash  {talk} 23:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm on it. Let me check it out.......I will be more than happy to add my opinion and any help that I can offer. BigNeerav 23:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! I even put a note at the bottom of my post urging people to comment because it's important, but still, no body did :P  The Flash  {talk} 00:01, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Done and done. I will keep the discussion page for "Sherman" on my watch list so I can add more information and reply to others who also post. I think it is pretty confusing, and we should try to clear up what is going on here. BigNeerav 00:15, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My point exactly :)  The Flash  {talk} 00:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I reviwed the information and posted my latest thoughts. I had to give it 24 hours so I can look at everything before giving a good, objective opinion on the matter. BigNeerav 01:02, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Blog post
I've answered your concerns on the blog post. You really are overreacting, we're not gonna create a complicated system when this is really simple enough :(  The Flash  {talk} 21:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh! And this is apart of our policy. We have our non-IRC editors make a blog, hide it, then put a message saying "No one unhide this page! It is an article for the newest issue of the newsletter!" Then the editors-in-chief actually do unhide it, read it, check it over, then post it in the paper. Sorry, I really didn't mean to make an argument, insult you in any way, or start anything at all. Sorry that I did and I hope this makes sense now :)  The Flash  {talk} 21:03, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it is too late to apologize. You have already lost my respect both as a higher authority of this Wiki community, and as a friend. Not only what you said was hurtful, but the way you said it made it worse. Not to be crass or anything, but you are letting your Admin/Co-Editor position get to your head, and that is clouding your judgement and view of things. I stand by my concern that I mentioned before.......that this is NOT an effecient way of doing things. I only did it because I care about the welfare of the paper (as I do our Wikia community). Many times, I have seen people gain a position of power/authority, and all of a sudden, they act like they are they are always right or act like "they're all that", and are very stubborn to accept criticism or suggestions because they feel that they position will be challenged, but in reality, those pepole don't fare to well in the long-term. Maybe if you got down from the mountain, you will be able to better see the reality of the situation. Accusing someone of "overreacting" because they express a valid concern (and add some suggestions on how to improve it) is not only a BAD way to communicate to that person, but is a QUICK way to have that person lose respect of you.

At this point, I could really care less what happens to the newsletter/newspaper, ESPECIALLY if what I mentioned ends up being a problem/liability down the road. Since I am not a staff member of the paper, my hands are already clean of any liability that I have, and since you are Co-Editor, this will end up being YOUR mess to clean up.

I am done. I have a lot of work to do now. That is all. BigNeerav 21:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:Not accepting your apology
Look, I meant you no disrespect. I'm not letting my power get to my head, I'm trying to voice my opinion but I really didn't know how. I just, I really can't see how this happened. I didn't want to use your respect, and I really, really ask you to please except my apology, this has really gone out of control. I really was just trying to tell you something and if it came off rude I beg you to tell me so and I'll fix it - I'm only human and I make flaws. I don't want an argument, I don't want anything like this. Please, Neerav, understand, don't just give up on this because I said something that insulted you. I have apologized so much and I just wanna settle this. If you could go to IRC I really want to fix this. I...I can't believe this happened, I'm terribly upset, and I'm so sorry. Please try and understand and don't just shove it off, please. Sorry once again :(  The Flash  {talk} 22:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Newsletter submissions
We were still in the process of determining how newsletter articles can be submitted. Since this is our first foray into a wiki newsletter, it's colloborative effort where each of the editors look over the article. We were also working on the layout of the newsletter and had to figure out what was causing Internet Explorer to choke on the scroll section.

We probably should have just standardized on everyone sending their newsletter articles to me through e-mail to begin with, but we didn't. There were also a few days where I had my e-mail de-activated because of a particular user.

BigNeerav, IamThePlatypus chose to use a blog post to submit her article. She got it done prior to the preview issue being finalized. The post was hidden not because it was forbidden for people to read it, but because we wanted to give them a spoiler warning and let them know it would be appearing in an upcoming issue.

Because the way we have been accepting newsletter submissions, or just the explanation of it, has caused a rift between you and Flash, when I get back in a couple of hours, I will set a formal article submission procedure in place. — RRabbit42 02:17, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Just a follow-up to what RRabbit42 has said, IamThePlatypus did nothing wrong here. She was following a system put in place during conversations on how to set-up the Tri-State Gazette on the IRC. The newsletter was set-up to contain a digest of what's happening on the wiki. Some of the content may be available elsewhere, but the newsletter is where we can put it all together in one place for easy reading.


 * The spoiler notice was put on the page so that if you just had to read the article you could, but if you didn't, then just avoid the blogpost all together. If you wanted everything in the newsletter to be fresh, you avoid it. If you are ok with reading it ahead of time, then that's ok, too.


 * This was the way we had decided to have some of the content available to the editors. Unless people are following the Recent Changes closely, they won't see it. Like RRabbit42 said, this is our first issue and we still need to work out some of the bugs. None of us are professional wiki-makers and are prone to making mistakes. We're all just trying to do the best we can. We all need to step back, take a deep breath and move forward with criticism of ideas, not each other personally. If you want to discuss changes to the submission system, I suggest you log onto IRC or leave a message at Phineas and Ferb Wiki talk:Tri-State Gazette for everyone to look over, instead of on a blog post. —Topher ( Talk ) 02:53, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I just wanna step in and give a little bit of extra info - yeah, the blog system is really flawed, but unfortunately it's all we got so far. When users can't use IRC or won't use E-mail, then all we have left is this. That idea you suggested of making an article editor-read only is really good and would be the best way, but it's unfortunately impossible.


 * I think like Toph and RR have said, we had these ideas layed out when we started this and are still working out the kinks. That's why we made this preview issue: to test out how we're gonna do things, what design to use, writing style, etc. So it's going to be a bit flawed until we work out all the kinks. Hopefully they'll all be fixed and you and the rest of our readers will love it! :D


 * Cheers,  The Flash  {talk} 03:32, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Did I come off rude?
Hey, really sorry if me calling the comment/reaction you made on IRC rude - it was just a joke and I was making a comment. You didn't have to leave; again, really sorry :(  The Flash  {talk} 02:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Reply to your e-mail
I received you're e-mail, and I've gotta start by saying this: everyone is appreciated for their contributions. We have several editors here and the way that we thank them is through the use of Accomplishment patches. If you feel under appreciated, I'm sorry, I didn't know, and this does remind me to start handing out some patches to users with great contributions, like you. Now, whenever I say you "overreact" or are being "overprecaucious," I didn't have any clue it would insult you to the extent it has, honestly, I had no idea that could be taken into offense. It's just my opinion and is just a word I use to try and end it and handle something kindly. But, as it has offended you, I, once more, deeply apologize.

Now, I have to say, you really shouldn't just "look the other way" because of a few spats - that's really not gonna help at all, ya know? In fact, it'll probably make things worse. I appreciate it when you bring these things to my or anyone's attention because it's useful, and when it ends up being nothing, that's a really good thing, so you really shouldn't be insulted. Like I said above, since you were I apologize once more.

If you're feeling under appreciated, I'm really sorry, but stopping contributing won't help, like I said above, and will only make things worse. I don't understand why you feel this way as this is a wiki and we appreciate everyone who does anything good, but as you have I'm sorry and will try to thank you and everyone else more for doing so.

Thanks for understanding. Cheers, The Flash  {talk} 22:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:Phineas and Ferb Two-Year Anniversary article for the Gazette
Fantastic idea, Neerav!! I almost forgot that today was the show's anniversary! Consider it done! Oh, and just for reminding me and giving me something other than a pretty rushed column for next issue (as well as feeling dumb for forgetting XD) here's an accomplishment patch!

Re:The IRC chatroom is down
Huh, that's weird. For some reason that sounds familiar to me, but whatever, at least it's better now :) The Flash  {talk} 00:29, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:You need to chill, dude (NOT amused)
No, in fact, I do NOT need to chill down. I wasn't doing anything, in fact, I was politely telling you to stop as no one was getting amused. Everyone was getting annoyed, yeah, you can have fun, whatever, but when people tell you to stop, that's when you stop. Seriously, Neerav, you were being annoying and everyone was getting annoyed. I told you to "Please stop, it's getting annoying," and you didn't - yeah, I KNOW you were kidding, but seriously, when someone tells you to stop, then you stop, it's common courtesy. I'm extremely insulted you think I am the one who was overreacting when I was doing my job as an operator on the channel to tell people to stop spamming and being annoying when they are.

And really, you're accusing me of taking anger out on you by telling you to stop spamming and annoying everyone on IRC? I don't see how that makes sense at all. Yes, I'm very happy with the excellent work you do here, but on IRC, when people think you're acting annoying, it doesn't matter if you're having fun, you're supposed to politely stop. So, yeah, I find that ridiculous that you think I need to "chill down." The Flash  {talk} 15:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * However, I'm also gonna apologize as I came off rude, since I understand how things can come off different on the internet then in real life. I was just doing my job but I see how I might have come off as angry, rude, etc., so I'm sorry that I did. The Flash  {talk} 16:58, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fine, but I'm not taking back the fact that no one was amused by what you were saying and was getting annoyed. I don't understand why you almost never accept my apologies, but fine - I see where you're coming from. I'm sorry you're so affected by this when, like you said, I was just doing my job and didn't try and insult you. Sorry, The Flash  {talk} 23:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm happy that you're apologizing, but I'm getting really insulted by you accusing me of being rude, I believe I handled that quite well. I wasn't being a "pain," I was just doing my job, like you agreed with, people were getting annoyed (including myself) so I told you to stop a few times. Then you said I was being annoying and left. But, whatever, I too am getting tired of discussing this. Also, please don't just say "This is the last that we will be speaking of this matter, as it is hereby closed," because that's something not even admins can do. Thank you, The Flash  {talk} 01:38, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

New Main Page Format
We are trying to reach a consensus on the future of our Main Page. This is an important decision because the main page is the face of our site, so we are trying to get as much input as possible. If you haven't already voted, please cast your vote or just leave constructive comments at Forum:New Look for The Main Page. —Topher ( Talk ) 21:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
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RE: Week 3 Songs Updates
Good Work BigNeerav. I haven't had much time lately, so I forgot to post my update (which I'll do now.) I'll ask Toph if he can lend Ferbot to reminding our project members. '' "Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today." '' - Phineas Flynn 07:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

RE:Week 4 Songs Updates
I agree with you, BigNeerav. I seem to have noticed that half our project members are the people on every project currently existing. And I also noticed the ones that have just those repeated people are not active. As you said, it is a big issue, since many people have only joined to make themselves look cool. I'm going to leave a comment on Topher's page about using Ferbot and see what he says. I was thinking of maybe making a warning system where if we warn them on their talkpage thrice in a row and they ignore us, then we can boot them. '' "Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today." '' - Phineas Flynn 07:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)